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paul (7781)
Just wondering as a guide, apart from all your other methods of promoting sites, how much a month do/did you pay to google to get where you are.?

I know its not just the money but the quality of words, but I would really, really apreciate some feedback on this.

Even if you want to pm/email me.

Thanks

MM
Tim
Hi Paul..

I see no one has replied to this yet. sad.gif I think it might be better in different location on the forum so I shall move it into the best spot.

As for how much you spend on adwords, I think a lot of partners spend anything between #5 - #200 a day. However the sky is the limit and people have been known to spend thousands!

With smaller numbers its a little more difficult to optimise your ads as you need to leave them runing longer before you can make decisions on what is working and what is not.

With the new tiered commission rolling out soon this will encourage people to spend more as it will make it more profitable, on a bigger volume which obviously equals bigger payouts!

I suggest you set yourself a monthly budget, use this to calculate how much to spend a day. Do some research on the theory of adwords by reading some ebooks. Build a list of keywords and a couple of campaigns.. and leave them running. It is important not to give up or stop as you will see better results after a month or so from the same ads.

Then when you start to see a profit put it back in and keep increasing your montly spend.

Hope this helped
paul (7781)
A DAY !!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Lol, welcome to the real world then..

Maybe thats why with only #30 a month I have less than 50 free members and 1 paid one in 3 months.. rolleyes.gif

MM
Stephen (4808)
HiPaul.

I don't use adwords or anything else like it. All mytraffic comes from being top ranked on not only Google, but MSN and Yahoo for my chosen terms. Of course, everytime the link gets clicked, it reinforces my position as it makes my sites more popular to users in the eyes of the search engines. Good SEO is what you need.

Cheers

Steve
Robert (8191)
On the current conversion rate, people must be going bust using adwords.
123 free members to 1 paid member.
On a conversion ratio like that i wouldn't even entertain using paid ad's.

On other programs i'm getting 1/12 paid signup.
Tim
on furhter checking seems you chose probably the best place for this post! Apologies.
Robert fathers (Robert fathers)
Bear in mind that the average value of a member is around #33 (Adult dating UK) (also depends what perccentage you are on) so you should make some profit with higher volume - the idea behind adwords is that you need volume - its a tricky subject to get into but it can work out - we spend in excess of #30,000 a month on adwords and make around #30,000.

But a lot of skill is needed, would be handy to have an adwords expert here. Lisa and Tanya are both very good at this if you need help.

If your trying to do this for the USA forget it on dating - adult works though - you will also need to comply with adwords for these accounts so will need a branded site that complies

Focus your adwords on niches and on other european countriesm including the Uk is my advice.

GoClick MSn and Overture are also good resources. You're on your own with these though as we do not do them ourselves, just positive feedback from other partners

By the way we now have lists on country specific Search engines if you want to submit your site in other languages - cantact Clifton for this in - soon we will develop into a script so you can do this properly. But a fantastic resoureces none the less - cliftons email is clifton@world-dating-partners.com

Robert
Robert (8191)
For me i think adwords is too much of a gamble so i'm looking at doing featured listings on high traffic directories.
Another tricky subject as some directories believe that their page ranking qualifies them to charge for any listings when their traffic is very low.

Feeder sites are another option i'm looking at in the next few weeks.
paul (7781)
Thanks for the positive feedback and ideas guys.

Robert, getting a 1 in 12, it puzzles me my your site has no PR rating, thats some good seo and other liks/adverts you are doing.

Well done m8.. smile.gif

MM
Robert (8191)
Hiya Paul, i'm kind of confused with the pr thing myself, traffic is still very low and the 1/12 on other programs is down to the paid trials i think.
For a 2 day trial on one of them is $3.95 which renews to a 90 day membership @ $59.95.

I think this would work well with WDP sites as trials have always converted well with sites i've promoted in the past. smile.gif
Stephen (4808)
Google adwords wiped out $53.00 from my account today from yesterday. That's really annoying.
paul (7781)
Very strange Stephen.

MM
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